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Post by enpassant on Apr 30, 2002 5:40:35 GMT -5
V1 seems to be the consensus here for radar detectors.
I've seen cops out in the road pointing radar guns at cars. Is this different than the Police car mounted guns?
I guess my ? is, what is the best way not to get caught, obviously other than not speeding.
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Post by Ringo on Apr 30, 2002 7:34:41 GMT -5
First a little disclaimer and anti-jinx - Don't speed.  Cops are just like the rest of us they get set in their ways. Every time you see a trap set up make a mental note. Chances are they will be there again in the future. I'll never find it this morning but there is a website that list the areas well known speed trap locations. Also, some times of the day are worse. They are usually busy during rush hours doing other fuzz things, but off peak times and weekends are great for setting up traps. Even though AoA motto's is lead don't follow, having a "birddog" is by far the best way to protect yourself. Other than that, just be smart about it. If your on the highway the difference to you going 10-15mph over vs. 20mph over is a few minutes, but it's a big difference to the guy pointing the laser/radar at you. The ones you see pointing are most likely instant on laser's, we don't like those. Unless you get lucky and your detector picks up the popo shooting the guy in front of you, you don't have much of a chance. BTW, what do I know I just spent three hours at the courthouse two weeks ago getting out of a ticket. ;D |
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Post by wclark on Apr 30, 2002 7:37:54 GMT -5
Instant-on guns (usually Ka band) used by police can be picked up by the V1 IF there is someone else ahead of you a few hundred yards and the police shoot them. If ther is no one ahead of you, then when the instan-on is trainied at you you will know it when they have you. So the best defense other than not speeding is to ensure there is a car or two in your vision out front. Ka band is very line-of-sight so dont count on picking up a gun very far around a corner or over the hill - it can work but only up to a point. The indication someone in front of you was "measured" will be something akin to how the V1 reacts when a cheap (RF leaky) detector in another car passes you - a low strength Ka bogey only 2-4 seconds in duration. When the gun is on you it will be VERY obvious.
Laser/Lidar guns will probably not be detected by your V1 until they illuminate you because of the very narrow beam and short range. I have read these guns are so narrow that a detector on the sun visor of a tall vehicle may not even pick up a gun if it is aimed at the front license plate.
One of the traps police seem to like because it sucks in detector users (except V1 of course) is the 2 gun spaced trap. One cop sets up along side the road, maybe using a constant on K (or sometimes X) band radar which slows down everyone with a detector. The next cop sits maybe 1/4-1/2 mile down the road with an instant on K or Ka. You can imagine how this plays. The V1 is good because it will be warning of a radar ahead while indicating a radar behind once you pass the first one. The rest of the units are blind to this so most owners assume all the radar are from the same police car and if they were speeding before they resume that just in time to be nailed. Last fall I drove thru one of these in Delaware on the way down to Hatteras and I watched as 3 fellow (lesser detector using) motorists got nailed by the second cop.
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Post by AluminouS4 on Apr 30, 2002 7:45:08 GMT -5
I'll never find it this morning but there is a website that list the areas well known speed trap locations. ;D |
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Post by Ringo on Apr 30, 2002 8:13:20 GMT -5
11 minutes, you the man! 8) |
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Post by rey on Apr 30, 2002 8:39:51 GMT -5
'effin scary. Read the trap details from that place off of this website! Yikes.  |
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Post by Ringo on Apr 30, 2002 10:43:00 GMT -5
'effin scary. Read the trap details from that place off of this website! Yikes. Maybe this should be used when looking for a place to buy a house (you listening Brian?). Property tax, schools, income levels, and how many f-ing traps.  BTW, that site has grown big time since the last time I saw it. |
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Post by AluminouS4 on Apr 30, 2002 11:19:57 GMT -5
Always happy to be of service 8) 11 minutes, you the man! 8) |
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Post by AluminouS4 on Apr 30, 2002 11:21:06 GMT -5
WTF! If they tried to pull that any of that sh!t on me, there would be a big lawsuit at hand 'effin scary. Read the trap details from that place off of this website! Yikes. |
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Post by S4MadMan on Apr 30, 2002 15:11:07 GMT -5
...don't speed. "Speed Traps, What is best way to not get caught?" |
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Post by Brian on Apr 30, 2002 16:04:51 GMT -5
Maybe this should be used when looking for a place to buy a house (you listening Brian?). Property tax, schools, income levels, and how many f-ing traps. I hear you loud and clear, Ringo. Happily Bolton (our current favorite) isn't listed (yet?). Unfortunately blue-haired real estate agents driving big cadillacs tend not to go as fast as we do (pokey is the word) so they may not be able to steer us to appropriate communities. This website will help. B |
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Post by enpassant on May 1, 2002 4:48:24 GMT -5
RE: Boxborough post, someone here said, "if they did that to me there would be a lawsuit" My ? is, have you ever really dealt with the judicial system and tried to go up against the police? If the Boxborough scenario did happen to you, what would you do?
Sue? How would you go about doing that? Hire a lawyer of course, a lawyer would only do that on a retainer, because lawyers don’t work for free unless you are lucky enough to get A.C.L.U. =unlikely, A decent lawyer charges $200/hr. I know I’ve hired them (nasty child custody issue). My wife is a lawyer. They would require a retainer of at least $2k, more likely $5k. Because they know this will be a lengthy/expensive/losing case. The only time a lawyer takes a case for no upfront fee is in a personal injury case or a case they are sure they can win and there is a potential for a high payoff. Unless you have big $, most people can’t afford to do this. Not to mention all the time you have to sit in court while the case is postponed over and over. A case like this would take at lease a year to come to trial, more likely 2-3=police brutality. You would spend at least $10k in legal expenses not to mention the time you lose from work for depositions and court time. Guess who pays the cops legal fees and if they lose the million dollar settlement (unlikely) YOU DO!=the taxpayer. Cops don’t care if they lose it cost them nothing. Towns/cities don’t care if they lose they just take it out of the tax base, if that goes down they just raise taxes. Sorry to sound so cynical, but just read the papers and see all the police brutality cases, even when they catch them on video it is still hard to win a police brutality case.
My advice if you are stopped by the police=keep your mouth shut and just pray they don’t beat the shit out of you because they are in a bad mood that day.
By the way it has never happened to me because I follow my own advice and I know the judicial system. But I know plenty of people it has happened to.
One last thought, a psychologist I know, once said to me “have you ever thought why anyone would want to be a policeman?” , If you were the school yard bully, what would be the perfect job for you?”<br>
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Post by AluminouS4 on May 1, 2002 7:46:01 GMT -5
Jeebus I was just insinutating that I don't agree with having my civil liberties violated by "the man" who (as you point out) is clearly favored by the judicial system. It won't happen to me anyway, as I never speed |
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&&Mark C. - Hopkinton, MA
